Zebra
Somewhere in, NJ
Male, 62
I've officiated football for over 30 years, now in my 26th on the college level. I've worked NCAA playoffs at the Division II and III level. In addition, I've coached at the scholastic level and have been an educator for over 35 years. I have no interest whatsoever in being an NFL official! Ever!
The NFL can't determine what a catch is; how can they get this right? I really don't know what they do in that case. I like Newton as a player, but he does get a bit over the top on a lot of the antics.
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I have to tell you, the play situations that come up here are so strange. I just don't see this stuff. Anyway, if it's first down - the team is going under center fior the first time - you change it. If the QB says somnething and the officials respond. But if the center picks up the ball to show the ref, you have a foul on the offense.
College rules: Legally snapping the ball (a snap) is handing or passing it
backward from its position on the ground with a quick and continuous motion
of the hand or hands, the ball actually leaving the hand or hands in this motion
(Rule 4-1-4).
b. The snap starts when the ball is moved legally and ends when the ball leaves
the snapper’s hands (A.R. 7-1-5-I-II).
In addition:
Rule 7, ARTICLE 3. Each of the following is a dead-ball foul. Officials should
blow the whistle and not allow the play to continue. After the ball is ready for
play and before it is snapped:
a. Snapper. The snapper:
2. May not lift the ball, move it beyond the neutral zone or simulate the
start of a play
From my perspective, the play you describe should not happen. If it does, it's a foul. And if all else fails, use Rule 9-2-3-d: An obviously unfair act not specifically covered by the rules occurs during the game since the action is intended to deceive and abuse the rules of the game.
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Don't know. From a "source", the replay people had no qualms about saying no catch once they saw the ball on the ground. On the field, it was ruled differently by the two officials on that sideline. It was "interesting".
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Good question. I don't have the NFL rule. But using college as a guide, you can't draw excessive attention to yourself (e.g. a choreographed dance, or taking a marker from the goalpost padding and "signing" the ball). My best guess is that the Lambeau Leap pre-dated the rulings about excessive celebration and it is more a sharing/bonding moment with the fans than highlighting the player. If I'm not mistaken, other players have interacted with fans without a penalty.
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A kick for an extra point is worth 1 point. At least in HS and college. Declaring isn't necessary. For example, if a team lines up for a PAT kick, they can still fake it and run for 2.
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You look at the result of the play, not the intent. It's the same as a fake; the result, if successful, is two points for the run/pass play.
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Most youth leagues use the rules that the state's high schools use. For most starws, that is the National Federation. If the ball carrier crosses the line, he cannot legallythrow the ball forward. The ball carrier can throw a backwards pass. If that occurs, there is nothing that I can find that would prevent the runner from catching his own backward pass. But, as you describe it, and I'm readingf into it, it sounds as if the ball is thrown ahead of the runner to get past the defender. That is an illegal pass.
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